Is trouble “brewing?" LDS actors get Super Bowl exposure18
Two well-known LDS actors got a chance for world-wide exposure during the Super Bowl yesterday, appearing in two different commercials.
Kirby Heyborne (The RM, Saints and Soldiers, Midway To Heaven) appeared in a “Cram It In The Boot” game show ad for Mini Cooper.
And it sure looks like K.C. Clyde (The Best Two Years, The Dance) featured in the Bud Light “Dog Party” ad.
If that’s correct, is trouble brewing (no pun intended) for K.C. after appearing in an ad for beer? Ironically, Kirby Heyborne is the one who has the most personal experience in the matter, having sparked controversy himself two years ago after appearing in a Miller Lite commercial. The ad, coming on the heels of the writers’ strike which made acting jobs scarce, ended up costing Kirby some local Utah endorsements and concert bookings.
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josephmartin said...
02:40 PM
on Feb 17, 2011
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I heard the other day that a guy named Scott Smiley a movie director that works for the LDS church also directed the movie 127 hours. Rated R. Nudity. F bombs everywhere. Verified it on IMDB. Very hypocritical. JM.
sharonm said...
02:49 PM
on Feb 18, 2011
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Here's the link. I walked out of this movie, not because of the swearing and nudity, but because of the blood. Way over the top. Pretty hypocritical. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1198259/
mombrowser said...
03:06 PM
on Feb 18, 2011
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We use screenit in our home, and I was really saddened by the amount of filth in this movie. PROFANITY At least 17 "f" words, 5 "s" words, 1 crap, 2 uses of "Oh my God" and 1 use each of "God," "Jesus" and "Swear to God." Not to mention the strong sexuality. How does that happen in a movie about a guy stuck in a rock??
sharonm said...
03:13 PM
on Feb 18, 2011
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I think that an actor trying to feed his family is alright to hold a beer.
johndaly said...
03:40 PM
on Feb 18, 2011
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I can't believe that Scott works for the church when he's filming movies at that level. Maybe he was hired to film something. Does seem very hypocritical to take time off to make a rated r movie. Someone should find out. I can't imagine that Kirby or others would be very happy about that. JD
jcfilm said...
04:11 PM
on Feb 19, 2011
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I know Scott. He is working for the church. From what I hear, he's currently directing the huge LDS Bible project in southern Utah. If you're in front of the camera on a movie like that, you're out. Behind it, you can obviously do whatever you want. Very hypocritical! JC
techno said...
06:46 PM
on Feb 19, 2011
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The Church has a very consistent employment standard for full-time employees--temple recommend worthiness as determined by a person's bishop and stake president. This applies whether you are an actor, a producer, a writer, or a director. There is no double standard.
techno said...
06:50 PM
on Feb 19, 2011
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For those who are not familiar with film making, often times, a crew member will have no idea what the final rating on a film will be when he/she signs up. This is determined when the MPAA reviews the proposed final edit and assigns a rating. Being LDS and working in the film business is not an easy thing. Many people love to judge and point fingers without knowing all the facts.
josephmartin said...
03:08 PM
on Feb 20, 2011
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Well, let's see. I would think that after maybe the 7th or 8th F bomb, not to mention the 17th, and asking actors to remove their clothing, and someone cutting his arm off, that a director might know that he's working on a rated R movie. But I might be naive. Are you serious techno?? Everyone makes their choices. Kirby made one. So did Scott.
techno said...
05:34 PM
on Feb 28, 2011
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If you are under contract, you can't just "walk off the set" without suffering serious financial and career repercussions. I can't believe how judgmental some members of the Church can be.
johnlant said...
01:15 PM
on Mar 01, 2011
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I would say that it's not any more judgmental than this director probably is in deciding which actors he will use in a church production. It is the responsibility of the actor AND in this case, a director (especially one employed by the Church), to research what he or she is getting into before signing a contract, and ultimately embarrassing the church. Nudity, vulgarity and many other elements of production are scripted and known, especially to a director, before a contract is signed. If they are not, a member of the church needs to make it clear that he will NOT participate if things move that direction. I would say that for an employee of the church, it is all that more crucial that he/she is absolutely certain of the nature of the film before taking 'time off' to participate in something vulgar. Finally, a director is actually one of few in the process that actually drives the decisions of how explicit and/or vulgar the film will be. There are no excuses. JL
techno said...
03:40 PM
on Mar 01, 2011
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Scott was not the director, he was the assistant director. Big difference. The level of ignorance and judgment on this whole situation is amazing.
billjensen said...
03:24 PM
on Mar 07, 2011
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Actually, his billing from IMDB is as a 1stAD and a 2nd Unit Director. Techno, I don't think that anyone here is being overly judgmental. Church employees should be held to a higher standard. The AD is the right hand of the director. He by and large runs the show. Would any of us have a problem if a church employee and part time actress did nudity in a film, and said explicitly vulgar words, but then came back to work at the church office building without any recourse? Why should it be any different for the one on set requiring actors to take off clothing, or to say vulgar things? I for one am very uncomfortable with the idea that our church films are being produced by anyone that has decided to also work on such filth. I'm with brother Martin. Everyone makes their decisions. Bill
byronwilliams said...
02:43 PM
on Mar 17, 2011
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This has me sick to my stomach. I did call down to the studios, and also checked up on the rest of this, and it saddens me to think that one day an LDS filmmaker would be asking people to remove their clothing and say such vulgar things, and a few weeks later, he's on the set of a film that is paid for by church tithing dollars. How pathetic, and how demeaning. So many are out of work, and this guy has more than enough, and chooses to take time off to create garbage. How embarrassing for his family and for the church. I read about this on a blog, and also wonder if a church female employee had been asked to engage in this kind of material, would she have been welcomed back to employment. I don't think so. But the man who tells her to take it off, and to profane is. That's a double standard that I am embarrassed by.
samanthar said...
02:57 PM
on Mar 17, 2011
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I was in touch directly with Elder Bednar's office, butI haven't heard anything back. He is in charge of the Motion Picture Studios for the church. I found out about this on a friend's blog and it made me really sick.
techno said...
03:57 PM
on Mar 20, 2011
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Did anyone read the First Presidency message this month? "Unfortunately, at times this happens even within the Church. There is no end to the creativity, ingenuity, and tenacity of those who look for reasons to criticize. They cannot seem to release their grip on grudges. They gossip and find fault with others. They nurse wounds for decades, taking every opportunity to tear down and demean others. This is not pleasing to the Lord, “for where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work” (James 3:16)." "We have a choice. We can seek for the bad in others. Or we can make peace and work to extend to others the understanding, fairness, and forgiveness we so desperately desire for ourselves. It is our choice; for whatever we seek, that we will certainly find." (President Uchtdorf) Surely, some of the "perfect" people here have better things to do with their time than throw stones at Brother Smiley. Remember the whole beam and sliver in the eye parable?
dsmith said...
03:36 PM
on Apr 04, 2011
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http://truthinmormonmedia.blogspot.com/ Found this blog and watched the outtakes. This brings the matter into focus. Made me sick. Techno, you are a better man than I am. This infuriates me to know that a church film employee would have a hand in the creation of this garbage. Pres. Monson this last week in GC told us to avoid these kinds of movies! How can we expect our kids to do so when members of the church, and one that works for the church film department, make it. That one of the people that creates our church films was involved in this is really hypocritical. Sorry Techno, but I have to say it like it is. DSmith
gijoe31 said...
09:52 AM
on May 24, 2011
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Geez, have you hypocrites actually seen 127 HOURS? Or are you so blinded by your ignorance and self righteousness that you would totally dismiss a praiseworthy story portrayed on film (directed by Danny Boyle mind ya’lls) such as that of Aron Ralston. I, being an active member of the church and military (Yes, I’m involved in violence, soldiers swearing. drinking, smoking, and having premartial sex all around me) found 127 HOURS to be one of the most excellent and inspiring movies I ever seen; a story note worthy to even have Elder Dallen H. Oaks take it as an example of adversity during this last General Conference. So while you continue to crucify Scott Smiley, and me most likely for even daring to watch such ‘filth and despicable trash’ as you all so tenaciously put it, I'll stand by it as one of my fav. movies, got it on BLUE RAY even!!! Have I adequately responded to rebuttal your self righteous and condescending comments?
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